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grandchildren hangs in the balance. >> hillary clinton meanwhile fighting back on the campaign trail after a week that saw tough new polls for her, and new details ahead on the place for politics. we begin with politics. the clinton campaign is blasting donald trump for comments he made at a rally last night. take a listen. >> now you know she's very much against the
second amendment. she wants to destroy your second amendment. >> i think her bodyguards should drop all weapons. they should dissolve, right? i think they should disarm. immediately. what do you think? yes? yeah. take their guns away, she doesn't want guns. let's see what happens to her. >> the campaign released saying donald trump has a pattern of inciting people to violence. this kind of talk should be out-of-bounds for a presidential
candidate, just like it should be out-of-bounds for a
presidential candidate to pedal a conspiracy theory about the president of the united states for five years, and that conspiracy being donald trump birther claims, and trump will campaign in texas and colorado today while pence is in florida. days after trump visited t"the tonight show", here's what hilary said. >> there is a lot of serious things, and i was on a show and being asked about syria and iran, and these are serious issues the republicans need to talk about, and you don't talk about isis for an evil grin on
your face and they are a group we have to defeat and wiput and it's a constant balancing act. how do you keep the energy and the positive spirit while taking seriously what you need to. >> clinton is off the campaign trail today but will deliver remarks along with president obama at the congressional black caucus dinner, and bernie sanders and elizabeth warren are in ohio today for several events, and he will not be on the debate stage because he did not reach the 15% threshold. and we have the latest on the trump campaign. katy, let's talk about trump's weakness. he's had a bit of a boost in the polls if you will. do you think this latest comment could jeopardize that? >> reporter: good morning, ayman.
the polls show donald trump and hillary clinton are neck and neck, and the controversy doing little to blunt trump's momentum, and now he is insinuating violence against his rival while trying to put an end to his conspiracy theory that he perpetuated. now donald trump tweets as he took the stage in miami. >> welcome to all of you deplorables. >> before daring hillary clinton's service detail to disarm. >> let's see what happens to her. >> and trump took seven seconds to admit what was true all along. >> president barack obama was born in the united states, period. >> but then two falsehoods. >> hillary clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the
birther controversy. i finished it. >> trump refused to take questions from reporters at the so-called press event, and instead offering a tour of his new hotel for cameras only, and networks declined. down the street members of the congressional black caucus were not impressed. >> did he address it in a manner that shows he was mistaken and incorrect. i think not. >> he is feeding into the worst impulses and b-- >> michelle obama? >> there are those that continue to question up to this very day whether my husband was born in this country. >> i was pretty confident about where i was born. i think most people were as well. >> while democrats seized on trump's jarring 180, supporters
awaiting him in miami dug in. >> obama has to say i am sorry to us, to the american people. >> both candidates are back on the campaign trail, and donald trump starts his day in houston, texas, and hillary clinton and president obama end their day together at an awards ceremony at the congressional black caucus. >> thank you katy tur there in washington, d.c. now to kasie hunt who joins us from our bureau in washington. let's pick up on the point particularly the insinuated threat by donald trump that hillary clinton's secret service should disarm and see what happens to her. >> i think this turn of events helps the clinton campaign get back on their feet after a rough week and the clinton campaign put out a statement after
trump's remarks, and he said we've seen again and again no amount of failed resets can change who donald trump is. he is unfit to be president and it's time republican leaders stand up and announce this disturbing nominee in their nominee. they are trying to get somebody on the record to say this is not a way to talk about this particular issue. >> is there a sense as to how the clinton camp will counter this line of debates. >> i think they know the debate is a serious potential turning point in this race, and every thing donald trump says along the lines gives the campaign more to work with in the debates coming up, and you will see this, and not just a focus on this remark, and i think there's plenty others, other things donald trump has said that the clinton campaign has talked a
bit about, and they will put it in the broader frame trying to point donald trump as unfit to be president and unfit to be commander in chief and i think they will add this to the litany of reasons they should not the be. >> let's talk about clinton's surrogates, and she has one of the deepest surrogates lined up in political history, and what is the strategy here at these events to go after trump or to promote hillary clinton's positions and policies? >> reporter: i think it's different depending who is out on the campaign trail. today you have bernie sanders and elizabeth warren out in ohio and that's a play to make progressives and millennials excited to get out and vote for donald trump, and warren in particular a good attack dog against trump, and michelle obama had a unique perspective, and she and hillary clinton both
served as first ladies, and she spoke about how hillary clinton has experience, and michelle obama made the case against donald trump without ever mentioning his name, including on the birther issue. take a look. >> there were those that question and continue to question for the past eight years up through this very day whether my husband was even born in this country. well, during his time in office i think barack has answered those questions with the example he set by going high when they go low. and he's answered these questions with the progress that we have achieved together. >> reporter: she did the whole rest of her speech without
mentioning trump's name, and she did stump for khreub tclinton, want to spend the summer in what they believe is prosecuting the trump campaign successfully, and they feel like they needed to change up the message a little bit. >> thank you, and good to have you with us. joining me now is the white house correspondent for the hill, and it's good to have both of you with us. amy, let's talk about trump's birther issue, this declaration. on one hand he's kind of coming out and saying i believe obama was born in the united states but in the same breath he is perpetuating another incorrect or false statement that it was started with the hillary clinton campaign, and how do you man he will be able to talk about it going forward if it's brought up
in the debates? >> i think this whole thing was done to put it off before the debates. certainly he didn't want to have a more awkward moment where hillary clinton comes out and corners him and says what do you think about it, and he pins it back on her, and a lot of people think it's crazy that, you know, he is doing that, and i think he loses points with independents when he does that, and he was seen as the leader of the birther movement so it's going to be interesting how he handles that in the debate in the next week. >> jeremy, do you think there's a calculation in which secretary clinton benefits from the birther claims resurfacing? >> absolutely because when the election is about donald trump, she wins, and when the election is about hillary clinton she loses. she and her campaign are trying to keep the focus on him as much as possible. but more broadly, ayman, what we saw over the last 12 hours, you know, the extraordinary
challenges of running a trump campaign. on the one moment you have relative discipline on friday morning when trump got up and said barack obama was born in the united states period, end of sentence, and then a few hours later he's in miami suggesting people rise up in violence against hillary clinton. you had donald trump give the very disciplined and measured and restrained speech he got high marks for all around and then accusing ted cruz's father of being involved in the kennedy assassination. you have an extraordinary undisciplined candidate, and that just makes this totally unpredictable and we don't know what is going to come out of the guy's mouth next. >> amy, let me pick up on the point that trump made about the second amendment in which he said the secret service should disarm and see what happens to secretary clinton. is he talking to more than just
his base here? >> he's probably trying to court independence at this point but i think it -- >> how does that court independents? >> i don't think it does, and maybe in his view it does and he is trying to look at the base, and he had to walk back the birther comments and it helps him lay down his flag and say, no, she's going to take away your second amendment rights, and i think this rally is maybe them and some republicans who are kind of on the fence and leaning toward the hillary clinton side but don't know what to do at this point. >> jeremy, i want to play this interview of john kasich, and it will be on "meet the press" tomorrow. >> are you voting out voting for donald trump. >> it's likely i won't. >> what is it about donald trump that says -- >> because i am a republican.
>> it's party loyalty? >> to some degree. but, chuck -- >> there was a time when you said country first? >> it is country first and i am unlikely to cast that vote. the chances are miniscule. >> how much will kasich's voice matter in his state particularly where trump and clinton are nick and nick? >> i think they probably help with the margins. if he doesn't vote for trump, that may incite more trump supporters to get out there and vote for him because it would be seen as yet another slap in the face by the reviled establishment. if we think about this in the context of ohio, that's where this really matters, because trump cannot win the presidency without ohio, and on election night, hillary clinton really only needs a home run. trump needs a grand slam and needs to win florida, ohio and
pennsylvania, and right now with the polls looking the way they are in pennsylvania, that means he would have to pick up states like new hampshire, iowa, nevada, and maybe even one of the upper midwest states if he doesn't get one of those, and it's such a narrow path. >> the road to 270 for the electoral college, even if he wins ohio, it's narrow. >> yeah, and absent one of those states, it's this collage of other smaller states that are really difficult to get to. >> amy, let me ask you about surrogates, and you are talking about clinton's strategy to attract millennials and you have senators sanders and warren that appeal to young millennials and they are out in ohio today and do you think that's part of the strategy to win over the millennials in ohio? >> it definitely is. the clinton campaign has seen a few polls that might have scared them a little bit and they need
to do better with the demographic. they supported obama by as much as 60% in 2012, and they need as many millennials to come out as possible, and bernie sanders can help especially with that. you saw in the democratic primary, they were blocking to him by the thousands and they were the ones filling up arenas and stadiums for him and this is definitely part of the effort and he and elizabeth warren will be at five events in ohio, and it's a must-win ohio as jeremy said and this is a key to victory in november. >> and some of the polls in swing states that show trump with some momentum, do you think it's -- is it easy to over analyze these polls and are we putting too much emphasis on them sometimes? >> i think mike murphy said it best when we were on "morning joe," and he said donald trump will be the president on september 17th, and right now he
would be. we had the october surprise, there's always one. and as i said, you have an extraordinary undisciplined and unpredictable candidate, and that draws attention on him and when the attention is on him, he loses. >> 52 days is a long way to go in this particular election cycle. thank you both for joining us this morning. >> thank you. from the birther questions to donald trump on dr. oz to his questions about hillary clinton's secret service detail, is this the stuff republicans want to hear a week before the debate? some answers ahead, next. who's with me? i'm in. i'm in. i'm in. i'm in. ♪ ♪ one, two, - wait, wait.
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comments on president obama's birthplace to questioning whether hillary clinton should have armed guards. let's bring in the former deputy campaign manager for carly fiorina, and the communications director for the rnc. always good to have you with us. are these the headlines republicans want to see a week away from the first presidential debates? none of these issues that came up this week on the republican side that made headlines are based on substantive policies? >> not only that, they are not based on hillary clinton. the trump campaign had a good few weeks there where they were concentrating a lot of fire on hillary clinton and now what we have seen is now that the polls have moved in trump's favor because of them concentrating their fire on hillary clinton, and he's back to the three-ring circus henjoys so much and you see the downside of a campaign disorganized for so long.
i can't imagine a competent campaign not want to go get certain things out from their candidate out of the way before the fall and now talking about the birther issue in september and it's a huge mistake, and i think it's an undisciplined candidate allowing this to continue to happen to him, and i can't imagine we won't see it for the next 53 days as well. >> let me ask you about battleground states that show a tightening, and khreub tat leas national poll sees the race as a dead heat. i am curious to get your thoughts. do you think trump's numbers that show this pump, are they related to things he said or are doing or are they misstepped and calculations on clinton's part? how do you explain the tightening in polls? >> frankly i think the clinton
campaign has been smug in running against trump and thinking they got it in the bag, and they have been measuring drapes in the oval office way too soon. >> what have you seen them do to reinforce that? >> i think that they wrote off when the polls were more in their favor that hillary clinton's failures, both as a candidate and also within a change election, their inability to deal with the foundation, and they are talking about donald trump and his birther comments and et cetera, and last night's bill clinton's party was thrown by the foundation, and the foundation won't release the names of the donors and it feeds this narrative of hillary clinton being evasive and secretive and the foundation is a problem they can't put away and i think in part because their campaign did not think it was a huge problem if they were far ahead in the polls, and now they don't know how to get out
from under it. >> if donald trump wins it will help redefine the republican party. what would that party look like and what becomes of the republican party that you and others have traditionally known? >> yeah, that's the $64,000 question. what will happen to the conservative movement if the republican party becomes more of a nationalist populists movement which donald trump is the head of. i don't know the answer to that. i wish i could predict that. i think november 9th could be interesting either way, and if donald trump wins you could see the creation of a third party or as we have seen in the past of american history, third party's usually start and then are co-opted by one of the other two parties and that's why we generally had a two-party system including flare ups in 1992 by ross perot.
>> earlier in the week we heard donald trump layout policies on issues like maternity leave and job growth, and then there was wild claims like the birther movement and then creates controversy with comments of let's see what happens to hillary clinton without armed guards. will what happened in the last 24 hours reverse his momentum? >> i think if he can make him more about him than hillary clinton will hurt him in the polls and the press blaming him for the, you know, the wild goose chase on friday when they went on a tour of his hotel and i think it's silly to blame a campaign to -- >> the networks did not go on the hotel tour, and that's not something the networks did. they asked him a legitimate
question and he brought up the question of the birtherism and tried to deflect it in 2008, and when press were not allowed to go with him and ask questions, they were not going into the hotel? >> he had military endorsements and talked about his hotel until he said his birther line, and they blamed trump for that and mocked him and that's affective campaigning to get cable stations to cover your event, and that being said what you want is an event that pushes the narrative back to hillary clinton, and this is trump's only chance to get to 270 is to make the argument hillary clinton is more of the same and it's not working for a lot of americans. we saw in the last 24 hours, it's reversed back to donald trump. happening now, the efforts
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to start and run your business. legalzoom. legal help is here. welcome back, everyone. i am ayman mohyeldin in new york city at msnbc headquarters. as we are approaching the next half hour, lots of traffic on the campaign trail with the presidential and vice presidential candidates holding events from washington to ohio, texas and florida. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren will campaign for hillary clinton in ohio and making a pitch to millennial voters. before we get to more politics, more on the breaking news that we have been following for you and that's a shooting rampage overnight in philadelphia. one person is confirmed dead and several wounded including two police officers. moniq monique braxton is joining us. what can you tell us about what is taking place there?
>> we can tell you the one person who died, she was sitting in a car with a friend outside of a bar innocently minding her own business and was shot and killed. and two officers are listed in stable condition and one of them a university of penn police officer. can you also see over my shoulder officers have arrived to visit them. just after 11:00 friday evening, chaos in the streets of philadelphia. police say sergeant sylvia young, a 19 year veteran with the philadelphia police department was sitting in her patrol car when she was ambushed, shot eight times, mostly in the left arm. police also say her bullet proof vest protected her during the assault, and the suspect fled on foot and ran into a local bar striking a security guard in the leg and using a female patron as a human shield, possibly a
hostage before shooting her in the leg. >> this is a completely bizarre situation. >> the police chase continued, and at one point the angry suspect shot into a stopped car with two occupants, a man and a woman, and each hit in the chest. the victims were taken to penn presbyterian medical center where the female victim was pronounced dead and the male remains in critical condition, and a pennsylvania police officers that retired from the philadelphia police after 30 years was also shot as the wild shooting spree continues, and then the suspect was shot and killed. >> it was a terrible and scary night. >> in a press conference, police commissioner ross said a letter was found with a possible motive. >> a bunch of ramblinrambling.
>> reporter: one witness told us he heard rapid gunfire, and we asked the commissioner about the background of the gunman and we were told that is still part of the investigation, and no doubt much more to come on this case, and live in philadelphia, monique braxton, msnbc. more than 180 days in egypt, and one american woman, what she was doing at the time of her arrest and how she's finally getting some help. ♪ take on any road with intuitive all-wheel drive. the nissan rogue, murano and pathfinder. now get 0% apr for 72 months, plus $500 bonus cash.
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egypt, she started a foundation to help children in need and authorities accused her and her husband of abusing the children, and human rights groups say the accusations are unfounded. and one congressman has taken up the family cause and is here. >> thank you. >> let's talk about this particular case in terms of what the obama administration is doing? are you getting a sense the obama administration is leveraging anything? >> there was a long period of science where apparently nothing was being done, nothing publicly. we want to use the incredible leverage we have. we give the egyptian government $1.3 billion a year, and we need to get an innocent american
released. >> and we look at hillary clinton running with president and do you think there's anything she can do in that meeting to further advance that cause and other americans held over there? >> absolutely. >> what would you like to see her do? >> i would like to see her press the case for, you know, a much greater respect for human rights. for whatever reason, cc has locked up artist and journalists and most of the leaders of the nonprofi nonprofits. she studied conflict resolution in fairfax county, virginia. this is a person dedicated to peace and civil society and they are locking her up for the wrong reasons. >> today there was a court decision that froze the assets of egypt's human rights advocates. do you think she is going in the right direction or not? >> in this case, the wrong
direction. the early promise of the arab spring, we need to, as always, continue to push them in the direction of a much more democratic society? >> you and i were talking about a little bit of this off-line and we look at some of the iranian americans held in iran and the amount of public pressure leveled by the american government to release them at high-level talks, and we are not seeing the same with egyptian americans and there are about as many as six american egyptians held in prison? >> that's a good point. we did that with three american hikers, and others and they have been released and we need to do the same thing with egypt. >> i want to play a sound bite and this is fm her brother, and take a look to what she said. >> we know how delicate the balance between the u.s. and egyptian relations are and we
thought if we keep a low profile somewhat domestically and more so internationally and on the american front we would not cause any ruffles in that balance. >> silence is not working? >> no. >> so they are calling for more pressure from the united states and it's something you echo, and there's a debate whether or not america has leverage anymore, and even the military relationship is not as strong as it once was. what do you hear about that relationship? >> both of true. it's not like it was with mubarak. and as the brother said, silence is not working. the more outspoken about what we want, the more we are to have the right military -- >> do you think there's a reluctance on the part of the
strategic allies? >> and israel has been at peace and we don't want to mess that up, and at the same time as americans, fundamental is our commitment to human rights. >> is there a role that congress can play with the aid that goes every year? >> it has to be a subtle threat. it's hard to give $1.3 billion every year that are locking up american citizens on trumped up charges? >> have you heard the latest on that trial? >> there have been seven different court appearance and not a single witness and no evidence whatsoever. they are two years and four and a half months, and they are worried about her.
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>> reporter: already drivers in cities and georgia and tennessee are seeing shortages, and this knoxville station bumped dry, the result of a pipeline leak in alabama. and that it stretches from texas to new york harbor, delivering about 40% of the east coast gasoline was severed last week, spilling more than 250,000 gallons of gas and disrupting service to millions. the company issued a statement saying it has more than 680 employees and partners working as safely and expeditionly as possible. in the meantime, ships have been dispatched to transport fuel and more tanker trucks with drivers working longer hours have been ordered in at least five states. >> what i see is scrambling behind the scenes and people supplying the stations are taking every pain they can and going down every avenue to make sure the stations are filled with gasoline.
>> and six states will be the first to see price increases, from 5 to 20 cents higher. >> we have to drive to work, i guess. >> you have to pay the prices. >> reporter: once the leak is fixed analysts believe prices will dropped since a lot of stations are turning to their weaker and cheaper pwhrepdz ble that's if things go smoothly. >> thank you for that update. well, she's living the american dream after coming to the states as an undocumented immigrant. her thoughts on the presidential race. and then the fallout over the birther conspiracy and the impact it could have on donald trump's campaign, and that's coming up on "am joy."
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>> welcome back, everyone, a new group is documented what it is to live here in the united states. it's titled. my american dream" an imgrant became a wall street executive. joining me here is the author of the book, a graduate of the university of texas and became a vice president at good man sax before leaving the financial industry a short time ago. she is now the co-founder and chairman of the ascend educational fund. thank you so much for joining us you didn't grow up in poverty as some would have expected, particularly in the case with undocumented immigrants from mexico. what's the main thing you want people to walk away with after reading your book. >> i want people to know that undocumented people have dreams and aspiration, we come to this country to give of our talents
and our labor, not to take anything away from a country we love. we believe in this country so much, not in my case, but in many cases, people are willing to risk their very lives to come here. that's how much we believe and love. >> talk to us about your childhood. what was your upbringing like before you came to the occupation and when you came into the occupation, at what age were you aware of your status as an immigrant and how they shaped your drive. >> i was 11-years-old when i came to the u.s. living in mexico, i had a really nice life. my parents were working hard in the u.s. to provide the life i had in mexico. i came here with a tourist visa, which was another thing that people think of undocumented immigrants, we think everybody crosses the border illegally, by building a wall, we will solve the problem of immigration win
40% of undocumented immigrants came here with a visa that expired in my case, i was 14-years-old when my visa expired. from that moment on, and i talk a lot about this in the book, that from that moment on, being a 14-year-old girl, i had to keep in mind my immigration status for every single decision from that point forward. so it does become a very difficult, it becomes very difficult to navigate your life as an undocumented immigrant in the country because of the rhetoric, because there are very little resources available to us. >> what is, how did you go from being an undocumented imgrant to the status you have now? >> so i actually married a u.s. citizen, a long-time boyfriend, because he was a u.s. citizen, i was able to adjust my status. one technicality, because i never crossed the border illegally, that's why i was able to adjust my status. when people talk about why don't you make yourself legal and get
in the back of the hein. the reality is that line doesn't exist for many of the people. i was a lucky one, there was a process for me to become a permanent resident and a citizen after i married. >> i a him curious to get your thoughts on this current election cycle, where immigration has been at the forefront of the some of the rhetoric we are hearing from the republican side. what has bothered you the most from both democrats and republicans this election cycle? >> the thing that's most bothersome, we are using immigrants and the issue of immigration as a scapegoat for a lot of real critical issues that are happening in our country. so we're not looking deeper into issues that we should be looking at, because we are so focused on immigrants and how we can blame them for all of the issues in our country, when in reality, immigration can be an asset and a way to increase our economy. if we were to pass immigration reform, millions of dollars would be added into our economic
system. jobs would be created for american citizens. so immigration needs to be looked at from the standpoint, how can we use immigrants and immigration as an asset to our country rather than using it as something to blame all of our issues on. from bothsides, we need to demand more. we need to demand that the promises that are made to pass immigration reform and to address the immigration issue is actually happens when the next president comes into office. >> you say that democrats don't keep their promise when it comes to immigration reform. are you leery of the promises that have been made on the campaign trail so far by secretary clinton and others? >> i am hope. . i am hopeful that this time we will actually be able to pass immigration reform. i urge people to register to vote and come out not just in the president r7 election, in the mid-terms and going forward. because we need more than the
course to set the the agenda. we also need congress to work together to address and pass immigration reform. otherwise, we're going to have the same thing as we had the last eight years. >> you recently wrote an op ed in which you said you are going to vote for your community. what does that mean? >> this will be the first time in my life i will vote for press dent in this country. it's an incredible honor and a privilege to do that. i know there are millions of people who don't have a voice, so i want to use my vote to give them a voice. i talk about this, this book isn't about me, it's opening the eyes to see us as people. to connect at a human level. so that's what i mean by it. i'm going to use my vote as a way to give voice to the millions that don't have one. just like i didn't for a long time. >> thank you very much for joining us, congratulation on your first vote as american
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